Too good to be true?

"Garrett Davis" (GarrettDavis)
03/06/2014 at 12:45 • Filed to: None

I'm shopping hot hatches right now, and this comes up: !!!error: Indecipherable SUB-paragraph formatting!!! , !!!error: Indecipherable SUB-paragraph formatting!!! , !!!error: Indecipherable SUB-paragraph formatting!!! .

2013 Focus ST, fully loaded with every option I can imagine, only 1,815 miles... For less than $20k?

I'm going to give them a call today, maybe it has a salvage title, maybe they meant 18,150 miles? KBB on this is $23k-$24k, and according to Yelp, this isn't exactly the most reputable of dealers.

There is a 99% chance that there is some stupid caveat, but just in case there isn't...

DISCUSSION (31)

Tom McParland > Garrett Davis
03/06/2014 at 12:47

Wow I just sent the Autotrader listing to someone I know in the area shopping for the same thing. The lack of free Autocheck worries me.

redlined94 > Garrett Davis
03/06/2014 at 12:50

If it's legit you better get it before someone else does, that's a nice price all day. Plus that black on black looks clean and those recaro seats are sure to keep your ass in one place through the twistys

Garrett Davis > Tom McParland
03/06/2014 at 12:52

Yeah, I noticed that. According to Yelp they've pulled the old bait and switch before:

Advertised as a "Clean Title, Never in Accident and Immaculate Condition" Only to drive there, waste my gas and time pointing out all the damage(s) i found with the car and "Oh by the way, it's a Salvage Title", I didn't see the listing myself ~explained the sales person. Would NOT recommend this Stealership.

Rico > Garrett Davis
03/06/2014 at 12:56

Kinja'd!!!

Something seems off right there. Maybe a frontal collision?

CAR_IS_MI > Rico
03/06/2014 at 13:00

No they all seem to do that. (at least the ones I've seen)

There is another user on here that bought one new and it has that some weird gap.

jariten1781 > Garrett Davis
03/06/2014 at 13:01

When I was shopping back in November new 2013 ST3s were going for 22-23 with all the discounts/offers they were throwing at them. 10% depreciation seems about right.

Garrett Davis > Rico
03/06/2014 at 13:02

What is it you're seeing? Panel gap?

Rico > CAR_IS_MI
03/06/2014 at 13:03

Ah whoops! It just looks like bad workmanship so I figured maybe it had a collision.

CAR_IS_MI > Rico
03/06/2014 at 13:04

Just Ford...

Garrett Davis > jariten1781
03/06/2014 at 13:05

It's still nearly 5k below KBB, though. I can't see a dealer starting that low if it was legit.

Rico > Garrett Davis
03/06/2014 at 13:10

Yeah, I thought it was possibly due to a collision/shoddy repair job but The Engineer said it's normal. I just GIS'ed Ford Focus ST and while I do see it, it didn't seem as pronounced as this. Just call the dealership and ask them what's up.

DatBomb > Garrett Davis
03/06/2014 at 13:13

i would simply not buy it just to avoid business with them.

Garrett Davis > Rico
03/06/2014 at 13:23

I think I remember reading that they did that for airflow. Could be wrong.

Just called them, waiting to hear back.

Garrett Davis > DatBomb
03/06/2014 at 13:24

I agree with that, but if I can get that good of a deal, I would swallow my pride and buy the shit out of that thing.

Jeremy H formerly Kalakaboooom > Garrett Davis
03/06/2014 at 13:27

Dude I wouldn't buy from them, theres 36 other reviews on the yelp greys that pretty much are all 1 star reviews. Someone on there also said they get most of their cars from auction, so the majority are salvaged if true. Also, someone said they changed their name from AMG auto gallery, pretty rare that a business changes it's name. There also is a ripoff report

Garrett Davis > Jeremy H formerly Kalakaboooom
03/06/2014 at 13:29

Wow, that's fucking terrible.

FrederickLawOlmsteez > Garrett Davis
03/06/2014 at 13:31

Correct, it is for airflow.

Jeremy H formerly Kalakaboooom > Garrett Davis
03/06/2014 at 13:32

Yeah, I get that some people don't like some businesses, and the people who are satisfied usually don't leave reviews, but a good 40 negative reviews? I wouldn't take the chance. Besides, who only drives an ST for 1800 miles then sells it?

Garrett Davis > Jeremy H formerly Kalakaboooom
03/06/2014 at 13:34

Yeah, I just did a little more reading. I don't think I'll be returning their call back.

Not worth jumping through any hoops, if it sounds too good to be true, that's usually because it is.

Garrett Davis > DatBomb
03/06/2014 at 13:35

After a bit more reading, these guys are actually worse than I thought. So, yes, I think I will be avoiding them like the plague.

Jeremy H formerly Kalakaboooom > Garrett Davis
03/06/2014 at 13:37

Yeah, I mean that would be a hell of a find dude, so I get why you would be willing to deal with these guys, hell if I found an ST at that price with that mileage and it checked out I would go out right now and buy it.

FrederickLawOlmsteez > Garrett Davis
03/06/2014 at 13:38

Kinja'd!!!

Heads up, the wheels were plasti-dipped. The ad says they were powder coated. HA! They also said it has Ricaro seats. This was NOT a dealer car that racked up miles on test drives and lunches. Someone owned this car for a bit. Keep a close eye out for other "mods."

FrederickLawOlmsteez > Garrett Davis
03/06/2014 at 13:45

Hopefully someone on the ST forums will know about it: http://www.focusst.org/forum/focus-st…

Garrett Davis > FrederickLawOlmsteez
03/06/2014 at 13:49

Nice! I'll keep an eye on that, thanks!

Rico > Garrett Davis
03/06/2014 at 14:02

Ah okay well in that case that's fine. Just in other pics didn't seem as pronounced but angles are wonderful things.

Justino6969 > Garrett Davis
03/06/2014 at 15:44

"This wagon outperforms all other"

"This wagon"

"wagon"

nafsucof > Garrett Davis
03/06/2014 at 16:22

Under the hood look stock there's no reason to think those wheels aren't actually powder coated I say go test drive and go for it.

thedevilinside > Garrett Davis
03/06/2014 at 17:27

They call it a wagon in CL ad, it's a hatch. There is a Focus ST Estate but not in the US. BS, too good for sure. (partial sarcasm.

suss6052 > Garrett Davis
03/07/2014 at 00:49

Per that link and per an autocheck it seems that this car was wrecked pretty badly before.

ACCIDENT REPORTED (Case #:1309-15801) MULTIPLE IMPACT COLLISION"

Garrett Davis > suss6052
03/07/2014 at 01:02

Thanks, man. Yep, dealer wouldn't tell me that unless I came down. Vultures.

suss6052 > Garrett Davis
03/07/2014 at 08:56

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j…

Although it's no longer listed on the salvage bid web site a google search of that vin pulls up several hits saying that the car was salvaged in California once already.